Question

Any tips on learning to fly in rates mode, struggling !

Answer 1

I still have my training props on ;) however I found FPV FreeRider (http://fpv-freerider.itch.io/) is a great simulator to use to build up your reflexes and control -- the settings I copied from somewhere a while ago that I use:

Rates
Throttle: 90
Yaw: 3.0
Pitch/Roll: 10.00

Camera
Angle: 30
FOV: 72

Physics
Mass: 0.59
Drag: 1.00
Angular Drag: 12.5
Gravity: 39

When flying in FreeRider, set flight mode to "Acro" with "High rates on", and just keep having fun crashing in the simulator, you'll eventually start gliding around and in feel in control :)

Just another tip -- I use LuxFloat PID controller, default settings have rates all set to zero, so my very first attempt at doing any kind of manoeuvres like rolls or flips didn't end well... I started off with setting my rates to (note, these are for LuxFloat):

ROLL rate: 0.50
PITCH rate: 0.50
YAW rate: 0.60
RC Rate: 1.00
RC Expo: 0.70
RC Yaw Expo: 0.20

Answer 2

I flew HOrizon for more than a year... and then FPVFreerider came out, best $5 I spent. Flew on Acro mode , crashed so much there. I spent hours on FPVFreerider, crashed and broke a million props (virtual ones).

One day just went and flew ACRO with the real quad.